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03/09/2005 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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SB 98 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS: FAST TRACK
Heard & Held
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 9, 2005                                                                                            
                         1:42 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault called the House  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 1:42:38 PM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Eric Croft      (via teleconferenced)                                                                            
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Jim Holm                                                                                                         
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Beth  Kerttula;   James  Armstrong,   Staff,                                                                   
Senator  Gary Wilken;  Eric  Swanson, Director,  Division  of                                                                   
Administrative  Services,  Department of  Administration;  Jo                                                                   
Ellen Hanrahan,  Acting Director, Division  of Administrative                                                                   
Services,  Department  of  Commerce,   Community  &  Economic                                                                   
Development;   Marc  Antrim,   Commissioner,  Department   of                                                                   
Corrections; Sharleen  Griffin, Acting Director,  Division of                                                                   
Administrative  Services,  Department  of  Corrections;  Eddy                                                                   
Jeans, Director,  Education Support  Services, Department  of                                                                   
Education  and  Early Development;  Nancy  Slagle,  Director,                                                                   
Division   of   Administrative    Services,   Department   of                                                                   
Transportation  and Public Facilities;  Kevin Brooks,  Deputy                                                                   
Commissioner,  Department  of Administration;  Stan  Herrera,                                                                   
Director,   Chief    Technology   Officer,    Department   of                                                                   
Administration;    Sally   Saddler,   Legislative    Liaison,                                                                   
Department of  Commerce, Community and Economic  Development;                                                                   
Laura  Glaiser, Director,  Division of  Elections, Office  of                                                                   
the Lieutenant  Governor; Joan Brown, Budget  Analyst, Office                                                                   
of  Management  and  Budget  (OMB);  Clark  Gruening,  Former                                                                   
Permanent Fund Trustee, Juneau                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
John  Cramer,  Director,  Administration  Services  Division,                                                                   
Department of Military and Veterans  Affairs, Anchorage; Kate                                                                   
Giard,  Chair,   Regulatory  Commission   of  Alaska   (RCA),                                                                   
Anchorage                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS SB 98(FIN)  An  Act  making  supplemental  appropriations,                                                                   
          capital  appropriations, and other  appropriations;                                                                   
          amending  appropriations; making appropriations  to                                                                   
          capitalize funds; making  appropriations under art.                                                                   
          IX,  sec.  17(c),  Constitution  of  the  State  of                                                                   
          Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                   
          fund; and providing for an effective date.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          CS SB 98(FIN) was HEARD and HELD in Committee for                                                                     
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 98(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act  making  supplemental   appropriations,  capital                                                                   
     appropriations,   and  other  appropriations;   amending                                                                   
     appropriations;  making   appropriations  to  capitalize                                                                   
     funds; making appropriations  under art. IX, sec. 17(c),                                                                   
     Constitution   of  the   State  of   Alaska,  from   the                                                                   
     constitutional  budget reserve  fund; and providing  for                                                                   
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:4"4:16 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 1(a)   -   Non-Public Building Fund Facilities                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  costs for  heating fuel  and other  utilities                                                                   
     for Non-Public Building Fund buildings.                                                                                    
                    General Funds                     $110.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC SWANSON, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF  ADMINISTRATION,  explained that  the  request                                                                   
would cover the  increased utility costs for  the Department.                                                                   
He reminded members  that there had been  previous discussion                                                                   
on the request.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 1(b)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       Feb   28:    State   of   Alaska   Network    Security                                                                   
       Infrastructure Upgrades                                                                                                  
                    Income Svc Fund                 $5,003.5                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN    BROOKS,   DEPUTY    COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT    OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATION, pointed out that  Section 1(b) was a new item                                                                   
to cover  security system upgrades  and that the  request was                                                                   
included in the  FY06 Capital Budget request.   He noted that                                                                   
in January, the State network  was the object of a site cyber                                                                   
attack causing many  problems with the computer  system.  Mr.                                                                   
Brooks  added that  the Department  has been  working with  a                                                                   
United States computer readiness  team to analyze the network                                                                   
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault asked  it this  would  be a  "never-ending                                                                   
battle".  Mr. Brooks acknowledged  that the network is always                                                                   
under  attack and  that there  will never  be an  end to  the                                                                   
attempts,  however, there are  things, which  can be  done to                                                                   
"shore-up" the systems.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault inquired about  the time frame necessary to                                                                   
implement such upgrades.  Mr.  Brooks replied that the intent                                                                   
is  to  create  a sequence  approach.    The  network  exists                                                                   
throughout  400 locations in  the State  and that the  oldest                                                                   
                                                     th                                                                         
equipment is anticipated  to be addressed by  June 30,  2005.                                                                   
Items  not scheduled  to be  handled this  fiscal year,  were                                                                   
left in the FY06 Capital Budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  observed  that  the  request  was  an                                                                   
accelerating capital  request and concurred that  the request                                                                   
was a legitimate need for the State.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault commented  that  more  testimony could  be                                                                   
taken  on proposed  changes in  the supplemental  at a  later                                                                   
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 1(c)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       Feb   28:    Alaska   Land    Mobile   Radio    (ALMR)                                                                   
       Infrastructure Upgrades ($6,175.0 requested)                                                                             
                    General Funds                   $6,000.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  noted that the Department  is in a  contract with                                                                   
the  federal government  to  upgrade  a network  system  that                                                                   
stretches  from Kodiak  to Fairbanks,  a  series of  computer                                                                   
sites along  that network.   The project  is a subset  of the                                                                   
network; the  Department would be  addressing 87 sites.   The                                                                   
State  is  in  partnership  with   the  federal  government's                                                                   
Department of  Defense, to develop  the infrastructure.   The                                                                   
largest  users  are  the Department  of  Public  Safety,  the                                                                   
Department  of Health  & Social Services,  the Department  of                                                                   
Transportation &  Public Facilities, the Alaska  Railroad and                                                                   
local  governments.   He added  that each site  is along  the                                                                   
road  system and  that there  have been  69 sites  identified                                                                   
that need immediate attention.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker asked why  the State was  investing in                                                                   
additional land-based technology.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STAN HERRERA, DIRECTOR, CHIEF  TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, ENTERPRISE                                                                   
TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF ADMINISTRATION, responded                                                                   
that the  project would provide  inter operability  of radios                                                                   
for  first responders  in  the  event of  disasters.   It  is                                                                   
specific to the needs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker pointed  out the investment size in the                                                                   
land-based computer stations.   He noted that everything else                                                                   
was  moving  toward  satellite   connections.    Mr.  Herrera                                                                   
explained that would  be a part of the  communications moving                                                                   
forward as  it is planned to use  a new technology.   The use                                                                   
of the State's system is something  that the U. S. Department                                                                   
of  Defense was  looking  at doing  anyway  because they  are                                                                   
interested in  using the State's infrastructure  to avoid the                                                                   
expense of creating a new one.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker asked if  only general funds  would be                                                                   
used  and if  it was  intended  that there  would be  federal                                                                   
participation.  Mr. Brooks replied  that the U. S. Department                                                                   
of Defense  investment so  far has  been $43 million  dollars                                                                   
with a projection of an additional  $100 million dollars.  He                                                                   
advised that  it would not be  only a State  appropriation as                                                                   
there is a federal contract.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault inquired  if it  would stay  on the  site.                                                                   
Mr. Herrera explained  that it would be line of  the site for                                                                   
the Alaska radio interoperable mobile radio.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if  the State  was  receiving  any                                                                   
payment from  the Alaska  Railroad for  use of the  facility.                                                                   
Mr. Brooks responded  that not at the present  time; however,                                                                   
the  State  is  attempting  to  get  the  network  solidified                                                                   
creating a chargeback methodology  so that all users would be                                                                   
paying  for  it.   Additionally,  the  U.  S.  Department  of                                                                   
Defense is  willing to  pay their  share of operating  costs.                                                                   
He advised that the goal is to have all users paying.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  commented  on  the  costs  associated  to                                                                   
operate the system.   Mr. Brooks pointed out that  there is a                                                                   
line item included in the operating budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  asked the anticipated usage  percentage by                                                                   
the Alaska  Railroad.  Mr. Brooks  did not know  the specific                                                                   
numbers  yet.  He  provided a  brief history  of the  network                                                                   
system while discussing the infrastructure.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SALARY AND BENEFIT ADJUSTMENT                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 13(d)   -   Executive Branch                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       Feb 28: FY 05 costs for the IBU collective bargaining                                                                    
       agreement.                                                                                                               
                     AMHS Fund                       $3,190.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson advised  that  the  contract would  provide  for                                                                   
salary and health insurance increases for the IBU Union.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  noted the recent  agreement between                                                                   
the State  and the marine engineers  and asked if  that would                                                                   
be covered  in the requested  budget.  Mr. Swanson  explained                                                                   
that another amendment would be  added to the budget request.                                                                   
Co-Chair Chenault knew that there would be another request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 2(f)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       Dillingham City Schools grant timing change to April                                                                     
       1, 2004 (Senate addition)                                                                                                
                                                         -0-                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SALLY SADDLER,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE,                                                                   
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT,   explained  that  the                                                                   
request  was  language  added  by  the  Senate  in  order  to                                                                   
guarantee that  any expenses incurred by the  Dillingham City                                                                   
Schools project  after April  1, 2004,  would be covered  and                                                                   
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOAN BROWN, BUDGET  ANALYST, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET                                                                   
(OMB), responded  to a  question by Representative  Weyrauch,                                                                   
explaining that the  Senate had added the provision  and that                                                                   
the Office  of Management and  Budget does not have  any back                                                                   
up  on  it.    She  understood  that  expenditures  had  been                                                                   
incurred before the original effective date.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:07:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 3(b)   -   Administrative Services                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The department  is seeking an e-procurement  application                                                                   
     to  lower  purchasing prices  and  improve  efficiencies                                                                   
     within  the buying process  for commodities,  equipment,                                                                   
     food and services.  ($225.0 requested)                                                                                     
                    General Funds                     $190.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARC   ANTRIM,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF   CORRECTIONS,                                                                   
commented  on  the procurement  application.    Current  year                                                                   
spending was adjusted to address the spending reduction.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer noted  the reduction  and  asked the  impact.                                                                   
Commissioner  Antrim explained that  the Department  would be                                                                   
moving $15,000 dollars from the  parole section and that they                                                                   
were  additionally  able to  locate  $35,000  dollars in  the                                                                   
administrative  support  section to  total  the $50  thousand                                                                   
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 3(f)   -   Probation Region 1                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       Reduction due to expected lapse (Senate addition)                                                                        
                    General Funds                    ($65.0)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Antrim  expected a lapsed reduction  from Region                                                                   
1.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:            2:07:39 PM                                                                                                
RECONVENED:         2:07:52 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft referenced  the Section 3(b)  reduction                                                                   
by $35  thousand dollars  and that  the Department  had found                                                                   
$15 thousand  and then $35  thousand dollars.   He understood                                                                   
that the entire  deficit was $35 thousand dollars.   He asked                                                                   
about the extra $15 thousand dollars.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SHARLEEN    GRIFFIN,    ACTING    DIRECTOR,    DIVISION    OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATIVE    SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT   OF    CORRECTIONS,                                                                   
explained the $65 thousand dollar  reduction to probation and                                                                   
parole services.   The  Senate used  $15 thousand dollars  of                                                                   
that in  the $190  thousand dollars  appropriated; the  other                                                                   
$35 thousand  dollars was the  "scrubbing" number  across all                                                                   
components in administrative and support services.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  was  confused.    He  asked  where  the                                                                   
$50,000 would  come from.  Ms.  Griffin pointed out  Line 16,                                                                   
Section  3(f) was  the $65  thousand dollar  reduction.   She                                                                   
clarified  that the  reduction would  allow appropriation  to                                                                   
the Office of the Commissioner for procurement efforts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  noted   the   $50  thousand   dollar                                                                   
increased   general   fund  appropriation   for   recruitment                                                                   
efforts.  He understood  that there  existed a  discretionary                                                                   
contracting account in the Office  of the Commissioner, which                                                                   
was restored  by the  Senate last  year.   He commented  that                                                                   
would  be  an  appropriate  place  to  take  that  money  for                                                                   
recruiting efforts.   Ms. Griffin  noted that she  would need                                                                   
to  go back  to  see exactly  what  occurred  in last  year's                                                                   
budget.  She  could not recall the contractual  transfers but                                                                   
offered to provide that information to the Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:11:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION & EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 4(b)   -   Mt. Edgecumbe Boarding School                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Residential operating costs related to expanded student                                                                    
     population.  ($800.0 requested)                                                                                            
                    General Funds                     $400.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY JEANS, DIRECTOR, EDUCATION  SUPPORT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                   
OF   EDUCATION  AND   EARLY  DEVELOPMENT,   noted  that   the                                                                   
Department had  received a $400 thousand dollar  reduction by                                                                   
the Senate.   The  Department maintains  that the  additional                                                                   
$100  thousand dollars  is needed  to make  it thorough  this                                                                   
fiscal year for the Mt. Edgecumbe boarding school.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer requested  additional  information  regarding                                                                   
the  request.    Mr. Jeans  explained  that  last  year,  the                                                                   
Department  of Education  &  Early Development  requested  an                                                                   
increment  for  an expansion  program  at the  Mt.  Edgecumbe                                                                   
boarding school.  That request  was approved in the House and                                                                   
denied  in  the   Senate.    Based  on  direction   from  the                                                                   
Governor's Office, the Department  moved forward, bringing 30                                                                   
additional students into Mt. Edgecumbe.   They were housed at                                                                   
the Sitka Pioneer's  Home and additional costs  were incurred                                                                   
for supervising, housing and feeding those students.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Meyer  noted   that  the   students  were   housed                                                                   
temporarily  at the  Pioneer Home  and asked  if the  Pioneer                                                                   
Home  was paid  for  the  usage of  that  space.   Mr.  Jeans                                                                   
explained that there was empty  space but that the Department                                                                   
had  to do  some  modifications  to it.   The  largest  costs                                                                   
resulted from the residential staffing component.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer pointed  out that the  Senate was  supporting                                                                   
only half  of the  request.   Mr. Jeans  emphasized that  the                                                                   
Department cannot live with any  reduction; he hoped that the                                                                   
numbers would be restored in the House.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker requested  that a representative  from                                                                   
the Senate testify regarding the reduction.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JAMES ARMSTRONG,  STAFF, SENATOR GARY WILKEN,  explained that                                                                   
the Senate discussion revolved  around action taken last year                                                                   
at which  time there  was an  objection to  the project.   At                                                                   
that  time, an  amendment  was offered  to  restore half  the                                                                   
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker questioned  if the  intent was  to not                                                                   
phase the  project in quite so  fast.  Mr.  Armstrong replied                                                                   
that could be a good characterization.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  asked  if   the  phase-in   was  not                                                                   
accomplished,  would the  project keep  moving forward.   Mr.                                                                   
Jeans stressed  this is  a timing issue.   The Department  of                                                                   
Education &  Early Development  had requested the  funds from                                                                   
the Legislative  Budget and Audit  Committee (LBA)  to expand                                                                   
the program  at Mt.  Edgecumbe.  At  that time, the  Governor                                                                   
requested  that  the Department  move  forward  and bring  30                                                                   
students into the  school in FY05 and bring  an additional 30                                                                   
students in  FY06, for  the full  expansion.  The  Department                                                                   
came back  to the Legislature  requesting the  additional $30                                                                   
thousand dollars  to move forward  with the expansion  of the                                                                   
first  30 students  because space  was found  at the  Pioneer                                                                   
Home.  The House approved that  request and the Senate denied                                                                   
it and  recommended that the  Department wait until  the full                                                                   
expansion  was  done.    After  that  process,  the  Governor                                                                   
directed  the Department  to move  forward  with the  project                                                                   
with the  first 30 students.   Mr. Jeans emphasized  that the                                                                   
expense has been incurred and  that currently, the Department                                                                   
is running the payroll into the 'red'.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker commented  that the Legislature  needs                                                                   
to give policy and direction to  the Administration regarding                                                                   
appropriating powers.   He stressed  that the  Governor chose                                                                   
not to comply.  Representative Hawker noted his concern.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 4(a)   -   School Finance and Facilities                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Legal and expert services due to the Moore v. State                                                                        
     funding lawsuit; extended lapse date to June 30, 2006.                                                                     
                    General Funds                     $230.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  referenced the section, asking  the total                                                                   
cost.    Mr.  Jeans  stated that  the  total  cost  was  $800                                                                   
thousand  dollars.   The $230  thousand  dollar request  will                                                                   
help the  Department prepare  for the  case.  The  additional                                                                   
funds are in the FY06 operating request.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 4(c)   -   Museum Operations                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Funding shortfall due to unanticipated decline in                                                                          
     program receipts and increased internal chargeback's.                                                                      
                    General Funds                     $100.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:21:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker voiced support for the request.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 5(a)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Due  to   safety  issues   relating  to  emerging   bio-                                                                   
     terriorism  threats  and   animal diseases,  changes  in                                                                   
     design  were  necessary  to  meet  original  intent  and                                                                   
     provide  a safe  and  secure laboratory  facility.  This                                                                   
     amendment  provides additional  funding  to cover  those                                                                   
     design  changes  and complete  construction  of the  new                                                                   
     Environmental Health Laboratory.                                                                                           
                    Federal Funds                        -0-                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 5(b)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Agriculture  economic   disaster  match  of   $500.0  of                                                                   
     federal  unrestricted receipts  in DNR for  non-existent                                                                   
     federal  funds is  reappropriated from  sec. 24(n),  ch.                                                                   
     159, SLA 2004, page 81, to  DEC for the Seafood and Food                                                                   
     Safety Lab Replacement project.                                                                                            
                    Federal Funds                   ($500.0)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Armstrong   stated  that  the  Department   requested  a                                                                   
reappropriation  for federal  unrestricted  receipts for  the                                                                   
Environmental  Health  Lab.    He pointed  out  that  Senator                                                                   
Wilken intended to use those funds  for the debt service.  He                                                                   
pointed  out that  there  is  language included  the  regular                                                                   
supplemental to achieve the same purpose.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:23:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft understood  that  the original  request                                                                   
would be  general funds to  pay for  what had been  done last                                                                   
year in the environmental health  lab.  In effect, the change                                                                   
would  free up  the $500  thousand dollars  in the  operating                                                                   
budget to  use in the supplemental.   He asked  Mr. Armstrong                                                                   
why that  would be a good  idea.  Mr. Armstrong  replied that                                                                   
they would  be paying  for the fast  track with those  funds.                                                                   
There is a provision in the regular  supplemental that states                                                                   
any  unexpended  federal  funds  will  revert  back  to  debt                                                                   
service.  It is  the intent of the Senate to  use those funds                                                                   
for debt service.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault pointed out  that the $500 thousand dollars                                                                   
would  appear  in Section  5.    Mr. Armstrong  replied  that                                                                   
reappropriation  of the  federal unrestricted  was no  longer                                                                   
included in the legislation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:24:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  noted that there are concerns  with design                                                                   
errors for the lab request.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:25:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                              
FUND CAPITALIZATION - ALASKA MARINE HIWAY STABILIZAITON                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 6(a)   -   Marine Hwy Stabilization                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Fuel cost increases of $6,813.3.  Feb 28: Increased                                                                        
     capitalization needed of $3,190.9 due to IBU collective                                                                    
     bargaining agreement.                                                                                                      
                    General Funds                  $10,004.2                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY SLAGLE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                                                                   
testified  in support of  the request.   The amount  reflects                                                                   
the monetary terms  of the agreement for fuel  cost increases                                                                   
expected  by the  marine highway  and an  agreement with  the                                                                   
IBU.    It  would  also  cover   insurance  and  salary  cost                                                                   
increases for that bargaining unit.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm questioned  if  ticket  prices had  been                                                                   
increased.   Ms.  Slagle observed  that there  had been  some                                                                   
increases  over the  last year  but not specific  to the  IBU                                                                   
agreement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
In response to  a question by Representative  Holm about fuel                                                                   
increases, Ms. Slagle advised  that about a 10% surcharge had                                                                   
been   added  to   address  increased   fuel   costs.     She                                                                   
acknowledged  that  the surcharge  could  not  come close  to                                                                   
covering  the increased  cost of  fuel.   She emphasized  the                                                                   
need to balance fee increases  with the loss of revenues that                                                                   
could happen through a reduction in rider-ship.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm noted  concern  using  general funds  to                                                                   
cover the increased fuel costs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   asked  for  additional   information                                                                   
regarding  those   increased  costs.    He   noted  that  the                                                                   
Legislature wants to trust the  Department's assessment.  Ms.                                                                   
Slagle  provided  members  with a  chart  demonstrating  cost                                                                   
increases.    (Copy on  File.)    She  pointed out  that  the                                                                   
Department  is  looking at  ways  to reduce  costs  including                                                                   
layoffs and a hiring freeze.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker inquired  if ferries would be "laid up"                                                                   
and if  the requested amount would  be adequate.   Ms. Slagle                                                                   
agreed that could be an alternative  if the requests were not                                                                   
approved,  but she emphasized  that would  occur during  peak                                                                   
season.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a  question by  Co-Chair  Meyer, Ms.  Slagle                                                                   
noted that  the Department had  an analysis performed  by the                                                                   
McDowell Group,  which anticipates  a drop off  in rider-ship                                                                   
with the  increased costs;  she pointed  out various  options                                                                   
for travel modes.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer acknowledged it  "would not be a bad thing" if                                                                   
the  private sector  captured  a greater  percentage of  that                                                                   
traffic.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze observed  that  the  highway systems  are                                                                   
subsidized heavily  by federal dollars.  He  asked if studies                                                                   
had been done to identify the  amount of travel into Interior                                                                   
Alaska.    Ms.  Slagle  responded  that  there  has  been  an                                                                   
extensive  review regarding  where  independent travelers  go                                                                   
once they reach Alaska.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                     
FUND CAPITALIZATION - DISASTER RELIEF FUND                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 6(b)   -   Disaster Relief Fund                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Base   capitalization   of    fund   $500.0   ($1million                                                                   
     requested);  2004  Bering  Strait  Sea  Storm  $4,054.4;                                                                   
     Interior  Earthquake  shortfall   $259.3;  and  Kaktovik                                                                   
     Winter Storm $2,363.5.  ($7,677.2 requested)                                                                               
                    General Funds                   $7,177.2                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CRAMER,   (TESTIFIED  VIA  TELECONFERENCE),   DIRECTOR,                                                                   
ADMINISTRATION SERVICES DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND                                                                   
VETERANS  AFFAIRS,  noted that  the  Senate  had reduced  the                                                                   
requested amount by $500 thousand dollars.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  questioned  the impact  on  dropping  the                                                                   
Department's base.   Mr. Cramer observed that  the Department                                                                   
will have to come back and request  additional funding if any                                                                   
major  event occurs.   Usually,  in the spring  of the  year,                                                                   
there are disaster issues resulting from flooding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm questioned if  2005 had been  an unusual                                                                   
year.  Mr. Cramer  pointed out that there had  been a greater                                                                   
snow pack  in most  of the Interior  areas where  flooding is                                                                   
now occurring.   He indicated that the issue  in Kaktovik was                                                                   
not unusual.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 11   -   National Guard Military Headquarters                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     National Guard Audit Disallowance - Federal auditors                                                                       
     have disallowed state expenditures in FY05 for a total                                                                     
     of $937,234.   This request  will cover October  2004 to                                                                   
     June 2005.   An  amendment will be  offered in  the FY06                                                                   
     budget to cover these expenditures  for the remainder of                                                                   
     FY05 and FY06.   The department estimates  they will run                                                                   
     out of  a general funds  by the  end of March.   ($446.0                                                                   
     request,  difference of $148.7  expected in  the regular                                                                   
     supplemental bill).                                                                                                        
                    General Funds                     $297.3                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cramer  explained the  requested change.   He noted  that                                                                   
the  Department   would  be  able   to  meet   their  federal                                                                   
obligations  as  long as  the  funding  was included  in  the                                                                   
regular supplemental.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft referenced Section  6(b).  He  asked if                                                                   
there had been a standard base  funding of $1 million dollars                                                                   
for  sometime.     Mr.   Cramer  responded   that  the   base                                                                   
capitalization   for  the   emergency   response  fund,   the                                                                   
Department  has about  5 to 8  disasters at  any given  time.                                                                   
Many of those  are declared federal disasters,  which must be                                                                   
over  $1  million dollars  damage  in  need  in order  to  be                                                                   
eligible for the federal reimbursement.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 2 c   -   Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Legal  services   costs  of   $190.0  provided   by  the                                                                   
     Department  of Law were  inadvertently omitted  from the                                                                   
     Regulatory Commission  of Alaska's FY 05  budget.  $75.0                                                                   
     for outside  counsel costs  and $258.0 to  implement the                                                                   
     Regulatory    Commission    of   Alaska's    improvement                                                                   
     initiative  to meet  its  mission  more efficiently  and                                                                   
     effectively are also included.                                                                                             
                    RCA Receipts                      $523.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATE   GIARD,   (TESTIFIED   VIA    TELECONFERENCE),   CHAIR,                                                                   
REGULATORY  COMMISSION   OF  ALASKA  (RCA),   ANCHORAGE,  had                                                                   
nothing to add to the request description.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:49:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  asked RCA's  intended  improvement                                                                   
list.  Ms. Giard replied that  it was a real initiative began                                                                   
in  FY04 to  look  at the  internal operations  and  external                                                                   
relationships  with   utilities,  the  Legislature   and  the                                                                   
relationship with the ratepayers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch   questioned  if  the   request  as                                                                   
provided  by the  Department of  Law  would be  reimbursable.                                                                   
Ms.  Giard clarified  that  when  the budget  was  bifurcated                                                                   
between  the Attorney  General and  the RCA,  the budget  was                                                                   
then prepared without inclusion of payment to the Department                                                                    
of Law for services for the RCA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:52:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  noted   that  in  Section  3(b),  the                                                                   
appropriation was  for both fiscal years, FY05 and  FY06.  He                                                                   
asked  why the  FY06 expenditures  had been  included in  the                                                                   
FY05 fast track supplemental request.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:54:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                  
7(a)   -   Capital                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AOGCC  costs  for  gas pipeline  reservoir  studies  and                                                                   
     depletion plan evaluations. House used all general                                                                         
     funds.                                                                                                                     
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $1,200.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
Section7(b)   -   Civil Division, Oil, Gas and Mining                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Legal costs  for work related to the state  gas pipeline                                                                   
     and to bringing  North Slope natural gas  to market, and                                                                   
     other  oil and  gas projects  for FY05  and FY06.  House                                                                   
     used all general funds.                                                                                                    
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $9,000.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
Section 7(c)(1)   -   Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
       Gas pipeline risk analysis and royalty issues.                                                                           
       House request 2,500.0 GF.                                                                                                
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $2,500.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7(c)(2)   -   Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Gas  pipeline  corridor geologic  hazards  and  resource                                                                   
     evaluation. House request 2,000.0 GF.                                                                                      
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $2,000.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7(d)(1)   -   Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Gas pipeline Bullen Point  Road right-of-way permitting.                                                                   
     House request 3,200.0 GF.                                                                                                  
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $3,200.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7(d)(2)   -   Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Division  of  Oil and  Gas  increased workload  for  gas                                                                   
     pipeline. House request 2,700.0 GF.                                                                                        
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $2,700.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7(d)(3)   -   Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner's   Office  increased   workload  for   gas                                                                   
     pipeline. House request 200.0 GF.                                                                                          
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts     $200.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                         
Section 7(e)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner's  Office - Work  related to the  state gas                                                                   
     pipeline  and to  bringing  North Slope  natural gas  to                                                                   
     market. House request all GF.                                                                                              
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $5,300.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7(f)   -   Capital                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  Natural  Gas  Development   Authority  increased                                                                   
     workload for gas pipeline. House all GF.                                                                                   
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts   $2,170.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                        
Section 8(a)   -   Arctic National Wildlife Refuge                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Funds for support  of national efforts to  open ANWR for                                                                   
     oil and gas exploration and development. House all GF.                                                                     
                    General Funds / PF Corp Rcpts     $500.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Armstrong explained  that Section  7(a) through  Section                                                                   
8(a) reflect  changes made for  gas pipeline efforts  in FY05                                                                   
ranging through FY10.   There was a fund source  shift of 25%                                                                   
of roughly  $28.7 million dollars  funded from  the Permanent                                                                   
Fund Corporation receipts.  Additionally,  language was added                                                                   
that  all except  (d)(1)(2) and  (3)  (Department of  Natural                                                                   
Resources) would not go through the LBA Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong pointed out that  Senator Wilken had engaged in                                                                   
discussions with the Legislative  Budget and Audit Committee.                                                                   
Vice-Chair Stoltze  asked if  the Permanent Fund  Corporation                                                                   
had  participated  in  those   discussions.    Mr.  Armstrong                                                                   
responded that there had been  no testimony at the table with                                                                   
the corporation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:57:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft voiced concern  with using earnings from                                                                   
the Permanent  Fund for the  project.  He asked  specifically                                                                   
why the Permanent  Fund corporate receipts would  be used and                                                                   
asked  the  difference  of  those   and  the  Permanent  Fund                                                                   
earnings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CLARK  GRUENING,  FORMER  PERMANENT   FUND  TRUSTEE,  JUNEAU,                                                                   
explained that it would be the  same realized earnings of the                                                                   
Fund's  source.   Representative  Croft  understood that  the                                                                   
proposed technique  would drain the  "cup" of earnings.   Mr.                                                                   
Armstrong  reported that it  would be  more of a  Legislative                                                                   
Finance funding source code.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   opined  that  it  is   an  issue  of                                                                   
nomenclature, referring to the same fact.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  thought that the royalties  should only                                                                   
pay a quarter  of the bill.   He asked if the  Permanent Fund                                                                   
receives a  quarter of the oil  and gas revenue or  a quarter                                                                   
of the oil and gas royalties.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  noted that there would be  someone present                                                                   
from the Permanent Fund board  at the next meeting to discuss                                                                   
those issues.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:02:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  quoted  the  constitutional  language                                                                   
regarding the percentages:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     "25% of lease rentals, royalty sale proceeds, federal                                                                      
     mineral sale proceeds and bonuses received by the                                                                          
     State".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft responded to that thought.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  interjected  that  the  issues  would  be                                                                   
addressed at the next meeting.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 8(b)   -   Elections                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Feb 28: Additional increased operating costs for Accu-                                                                     
     Vote   maintenance;    lease   cost    increases;   list                                                                   
     maintenance costs; additional postage and shipping,                                                                        
     printing, training, archiving and destruction costs.                                                                       
                    General Funds                     $160.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  GLAISER, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  ELECTIONS, OFFICE  OF                                                                   
THE  LIEUTENANT   GOVERNOR,  explained  the  request.     She                                                                   
identified the costs associated with:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   ·   Moving the Region 2 office in Anchorage;                                                                                 
   ·   Additional lease costs;                                                                                                  
   ·   Costs related to the Accu-vote maintenance agreement;                                                                    
         and                                                                                                                    
   ·   Additional postage.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  questioned why  the  costs  had not  been                                                                   
included  in the earlier  appropriations  bill.  Ms.  Glaiser                                                                   
explained that it had been advised that they be included in                                                                     
the fast track supplemental.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 98 was HELD for further consideration.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:09 P.M.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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